Clearlooks-More

Metacity Themes

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Description:

The idea behind the theme is to make fit of window buttons to Clearlooks GTK theme.

IMHO, Clearlooks/Clearlooks2 metacity theme's buttons look alien to Clearlooks GTK theme. Clearlooks buttons look flat. Clearlooks2 is over-shiny, not matching to GTK theme. So that's why this theme appeared.

I also believe the theme does not bloat desktop with SELECTED color stripe (on focused window top).

INSTALL: The package contains two version of the theme - one with rounded window borders and one with squared. To correctly install both of them, extract archive content to ~/.themes folder.


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Last changelog:

13 years ago

12 Feb:
- Made window corner's gradient connections more smooth.
- Better vertical centering of title.

08 Feb:
- Revisited shape of utility window, thanks 'bvc' for pointing me. Now it's also rounded; changed buttons aspect; increased font size.

07 Feb:
- Back to roots. Removed highlight with SELECTED color of focused window. I think bold window header font vs. shaded one would be enough to distinguish focuced window.

05 Feb:
- Changed button labels style to more traditional. Better for high resolution monitors.
- Fixed button shape in non-even areas (height or/and width).
- screenshot #2

04 Feb:
- Fixed shadows on buttons top.
- Fixed button rendering in small areas.
- Better button shape in big areas (Large toolbar font).

02 Feb:
- Reworked focused window border. Now it looks like focused text field border.
- Added missed 3d effect on maximized wingow borders.

31 Jan:
*Done under Sparrk influence* :)
- Fought 'plain grey', added 3d effects to border adges.
- Leaved alone 'insensitive look' for unfocused buttons. So things should be 100% consistent now.
- Added tiny border with SELECTED color around focused window. To overweight loss of such a nice but alien insensitive buttons.

30 Jan: Added version with squared window borders.

Amaranth

12 years ago

Could you make the buttons look insensitive when the window isn't in front? That would complete the effect, I think.

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bvc

12 years ago

Just now, for the first time, gimp/zoomed in on this theme. Just wanted to compliment your smoothing out and gradient work on the borders and corners. I've been working on a metacity theme that does that, and I thought I was the first. Nice to see someone else doing it!
http://gnomethemes.org/pre/CL_Cairo.png
http://gnomethemes.org/pre/CL_Cairo1.png

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bvc

12 years ago

I've released it here
http://gnomethemes.org/?p=50

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mcduck

13 years ago

This is a great theme. I like blending the title bar to rest of window. But I also loved the color strip around selected window.. Is there any chance of getting a version with that too?

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alex100

13 years ago

Really a good idea.
The only thing that distrubs me, are the icons.

Maybe you should consider making our own ones, those default icons do look a bit too ugly for that nice theme.

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anauman

13 years ago

Thanks for your comment.

Do you mean icons on the buttons?

What design whould you suggest? May be screenshot.

Icon on menu button resembles one from GTK controls. Close button icon - mirrored menu. The rest are traditional.

People tend to more traditional experience. See fall of my 'Avant-qarde' metacity theme :)

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puelocesar

13 years ago

Can you upload screenshots?? I'm trying to upload the new screenshots of my theme but it gives an error..

Ho can help me with this? My old screenshots aren't very nice

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anauman

13 years ago

Hi!
Yes, I've changed it twice today.
As I remember, I saw the same error (/www/www.kde-look.org/htdocs/content/edit.php on line 268) but it did not prevert me from uploading. I 100% sure I saw this error on my main tar.bz2 change.

My file rather small - ~50K and PNG format. Are you sure that your file size less then 300K as it's required? (Default screenshots are saved in PNG and usually takes more that 300K...)

I just pressed 'change' button on Scrrenshot1 part of edit form...

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puelocesar

13 years ago

HEY! it shows the correct shot now!!

:D

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puelocesar

13 years ago

I'm using a jpeg with 45k... it would't suposed to have errors

thanks

.. the theme score fallen 3 points... :(

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bvc

13 years ago

The score falls when you do an update and everyone redownloads. Some kind of weird ratio thing I guess. Ratings are not at all accurate. Best way to judge is by number of downloads. I change my mind a lot, or screw up, and do a lot of updates so my ratings are lower than they would be if I didn't do so many updates.


My only complaint would be the insensitive buttons aren't. Only the border line changes.

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anauman

13 years ago

bvc, Hi!

It's cool to see such a monster in "my" page . I'm amazed by your creativity.

Could you explain more your vision?:
"My only complaint would be the insensitive buttons aren't. Only the border line changes."

I'm not sure I completely get you. Your opinion viluable to me.

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bvc

13 years ago

Oh, and something I just learned is that utility windows can not be round. To see one, open gimp>file>preferences>window management 'window manager hints' and change to 'utility windows'. Restart gimp.

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bvc

13 years ago

I came to that conclusion because the round theme I was trying to get to work (Unity), looked bad round and small. Utility windows are supposed to be a lot smaller vertically, supposedly.

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bvc

13 years ago

Yikes! ...and I thought they could not be round. Wonder how I came to that conclusion?
:/

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bvc

13 years ago

thx for the kind words, but I'm just a wannabe hacker :D

This is what I mean.
http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/cl-more.png
See, the buttons are not black and flow with the inactive title and border.

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bvc

13 years ago

all I did was make 2 directories, open them, take screenshots with the gimp, and edit the inactive buttons. What software?

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anauman

13 years ago

bvc,
I meant what's the software on this screenshot?
http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/cl-more.png
Thanks.

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bvc

13 years ago

Sparrk ="Often it can be positive to create some inconsistency, as long as it doesn't lead to potential confusion. In other words, elements that look the same should also behave the same, but elements that behave the same don't necessarily have to look the same."

That is what I mean, and I already explained why it doesn't make sense

bvc ="Inactive/insensitive fonts are embedded in every aspect of every os/gui like....since gui :D The wm should behave the same, no doubt. Since the only diff between you active and inactive windows is 1px and font, there's really nothing to obvious saying hey!...I'm the active one!"

Clearlooks has color to say hey! This theme doesn't, so it needs inactive buttons.
Simple.

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Sparrk

13 years ago

What doesn't make sense? The grayed-out look is only used for insensitive widgets in Gtk, but unfocused window titlebars are not insensitive. I agree that focused windows don't stand out a lot with this theme now, but this just shows how complicated things get when one aims for 100% consistency.

Often it can be positive to create some inconsistency, as long as it doesn't lead to potential confusion. In other words, elements that look the same should also behave the same, but elements that behave the same don't necessarily have to look the same.

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bvc

13 years ago

oh, the info in the terminal is done with this script.
http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/docs/info.txt

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bvc

13 years ago

Well, sorry, but that make absolutely no sense since it's backwards. Inactive/insensitive fonts are embedded in every aspect of every os/gui like....since gui :D The wm should behave the same, no doubt. Since the only diff between you active and inactive windows is 1px and font, there's really nothing to obvious saying hey!...I'm the active one!

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anauman

13 years ago

Thank you for illustration. Understood.

This actually was the initial design of this theme. The first release of. When buttons in unfocused window looked 100% like GTK disabled buttons (insensitive). Looked exactly like 'button2' in 'The Widget Factory' application.

Then 'sparrk' argued (see his comment above) that this is inconsistent behavior for simply unfocused buttons. I agreed. That's why buttons do not change appearence in unfocused window state.

My goal with this theme was closest "integration" of GTK and metacity themes, so it'd hardly visually distinguisheable. It is becoming the whole.

Because of that I mimic GTK buttons view and behavior in metacity theme. GTK buttons don't turn out disabled when unfocused. Neither do mine buttons.

Though I agree, that your and mine initial design look visually more appealing.

BTW, what's the tool in screenshot you used? Something with themes drop-down.
--
Thanks for pointing me to utility window issue. Fixed.

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BoneKracker

13 years ago

I don't think accessiblity of the window title bar functionality is diminished by blending it in. It is easy to see which portion of the window one can "grab" based on the height of the window title itself. While the presence of color or a divider does serve to suggest the functionality of a "handle", dragging windows around is so embedded in most of us that this is a small sacrifice.

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Sparrk

13 years ago

It's not easy to see, it's easy to guess. Different thing.

"dragging windows around is so embedded in most of us that this is a small sacrifice"

Yes, but that doesn't make it any more correct. An interface which assumes knowledge from the user is a flawed interface. If you make the titlebar and window background look like one thing, there is no reason why the user shouldn't expect it to behave like one thing.

The artificial separation between the application and the window frame is something we really need to get fixed. Just covering it up is not a good solution.

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13 years ago

12 Feb:
- Made window corner's gradient connections more smooth.
- Better vertical centering of title.

08 Feb:
- Revisited shape of utility window, thanks 'bvc' for pointing me. Now it's also rounded; changed buttons aspect; increased font size.

07 Feb:
- Back to roots. Removed highlight with SELECTED color of focused window. I think bold window header font vs. shaded one would be enough to distinguish focuced window.

05 Feb:
- Changed button labels style to more traditional. Better for high resolution monitors.
- Fixed button shape in non-even areas (height or/and width).
- screenshot #2

04 Feb:
- Fixed shadows on buttons top.
- Fixed button rendering in small areas.
- Better button shape in big areas (Large toolbar font).

02 Feb:
- Reworked focused window border. Now it looks like focused text field border.
- Added missed 3d effect on maximized wingow borders.

31 Jan:
*Done under Sparrk influence* :)
- Fought 'plain grey', added 3d effects to border adges.
- Leaved alone 'insensitive look' for unfocused buttons. So things should be 100% consistent now.
- Added tiny border with SELECTED color around focused window. To overweight loss of such a nice but alien insensitive buttons.

30 Jan: Added version with squared window borders.

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