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Just upgraded my PC to Ubuntu Edgy. :-) . Most of the stuff working fine.

GIVE ME COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR THE FIRST ALPHA RELEASE.


At Last I decided to start developing an osx like desktop environment :-)
There will be a GTK cairo engine (Aqualooks). Still I'm learning these things, so currently development process is bit slow. But definitely this will a xmas gift for osx fans.

History & Credits: Richard Stellingwerff & Daniel Borgmann for developing Clearlooks engine.
gthompson (at) cogeco.ca for Ubuntulooks modifications.
Doug Whiteley Rezlooks modifications.
Andrea Cimitan for Candido/Murrine modifications.
Shlomi Israel for Dyndyn modifications.
Last changelog:

12 years ago

Most of the gnome stuff under control (Not all, but soon they will finish). Non Gnome/Gtk apps like firefoc etc (Plus some gtk apps that doesn't follow standards) are the evils at the moment :( . Obviously this is slower than some existing engines, But not so slow as I expected :) . This is my defauly engine now.

My plan is to make it essential feature complete and less buggy. Make an alpha release. Then move to polishing and performance tuning.

OSXFan7

12 years ago

looks very good,I would like to help with this if i could :) When will the first release be?

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malwk

12 years ago

Happy to inform you, zammi, the nautilus spinner is changed in the latest version so it is no longer strangely drawn by the engines.
One thing less on your side to fix:)

Hope to see the code soon:)

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turbojugend

12 years ago

Hi Zammi,

I've been watching this effort of yours and I applaud your efforts with enthusiasm.

I would like to know if you can open this project too, so others can help, basically I ain't that skilled when it comes to coding but I am pretty handy with images, so wherever you wish something to be done I would be glad to help, if you need me to. I beieve others could help with code (like malwk suggested).

Anyway if I get it right this is going to be a full implementation of MacOS X so that with kxdocker,beryl and so on it could mimic both Look&feel. Plz clarify that cause it ain't clear to me.

To suggestions:

1. The scrollbars need to have motion and macos x look, graphite and aqua.

2. The buttons need to be rounded 9which the seem to be) but a LOT smaller, take a look at baghira for some ideas.

3. The tabs need to be rounded (which seem to be partially done) but also to have aqua focus and to be centered.

4. The tough part is to be able to change look&fell for different window types... yup I know it's difficult but tough targets make efforts worthy. What I mean is to be able to have metal lokk for music players (like iTunes is fin macosX) and stuff like that while most apps use milky or brushed look. Again baghira does these things so try taking a lokk at it, it may give a boost to your thought.

5. Finally I believe that a project page or blog should be created so that it would be easier to contribute (?) and watch the progress.

I don't know if I am even close to understanding what you wish to create and how much time you wish to spend for it, forgive me if I didn't get your intentions. I am just excited with the prospect of what it could be...

Cheers, TJ.

P.S.: Please feel free to contact me if you don't wish to answer using this comments space.

P.S.: I feel like expressing in advance how sorry I am, in case I discomfort you with this one.

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zammi

12 years ago

Thanks for your comment... ( Huh too many.. :-) ). Give me couple of weeks for the initial release. Please don't expect everything in the first release, but with the time they will be catched up.

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turbojugend

12 years ago

NO, not at all, I 'll be happy to contribute in any way, I 'm a big OSx functionality fan (yup to me having the buttons on the left it's not just looks is functionality, and so on).

I could be contributing in any way I am capable (these unfortunately bieng only two, comments and image editing which I find my self quite able at).

Keep up the good work, I like some(/all the) minor changes I see in your screenshots. Finally take a look at my OSX panel, if it's up to your standards use it in any way you see fit (as an image/or find a way to make your engine making panels look like that).

Best Regards, TJ.

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zammi

12 years ago

Button sizes: It's a shame that some of the applications are not following standards, so that theme developers are having hard time. Anyway we'll try our best to overcome this situation :-)

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turbojugend

12 years ago

Well as for the buttons another thing is their gradient isn't that nice, it looks harsh, and this for gradients means they lost their goal (fake 3d look, usually), sorry being harsh on you, but as I said before it is hard goals that make an effort worthy. ;).

P.S: I ain't sure what exactly I should suggest, I have created some OSX looking buttons, but from what I understand you are not using a pixmap engine, consider that Blog/site suggestion of mine, it will greatly boost help and comments from others, as I see there's a rising interest for your effort. I could also help with the blog, if you find this suggestion interesting, I could give you some links to check some other blogs I created, or sites. Bardon me, again, I just fell an urge to contribute in waht I am sure I 'll be using the first day it's released. Greatly appreciate this, I know it's been told, but I fell like repeating it

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malwk

12 years ago

1. Notebook/Tabs (Still could not find a way to make the tabs centered) - will have to patch gtk.
3. Toolbar (Still nautilus throbber issue is pending. Need to find the way to active (focused) and background windows. Only focused window need gradient in the toolbar - I think you'll need to add one more issue - the new Evovution uses some new type of button, it behaves the same strange way as the throbber meaning it is not using the toolbar base. One of these days I'll dive in the code and will find a way to theme this.
The last - If you find a way to do this without patching gtk/gdk you'll be my next hero, right with AqD.
Good luck with the engine. Also note that it is not needed to completly mimic Aqua, just close enough:) I'll be glad if we (the comunity) could take a look at the code eventually, if you are planing to relase it as GPL. It's been a while so....

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zammi

12 years ago

Hope you will like the look and feel of the evolution. Please give me another 2 weeks for the first release. I feel now I've come to some speed in theme engine development. Still lots of things to learn. Unfortunately I've to spend weekend for these stuff.

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iKyoushu

12 years ago

So far, this looks awesome. Can't wait.

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turbojugend

12 years ago

Well, I can say that there are many, many thinks that are missing from the pixmaps themes, I would suggest studying KDE's Baghira (which is dead btw) for many things that simple pixmap theming can't possible do.

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bonafide

12 years ago

you even got round scrollbars... can't wait for the release

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cimi86

12 years ago

For the moment using an engine with so much gradients and curves is so much slower than the normal "osx pixmap" themes. Which provides a better quality, also.

Another thing is that because of gtk structure you will NEVER reach the same behaviour of aqua style. (See notebook for example), so at least you will reach the quality of a pixmap theme... but why do an engine for it?

In my opinion there's only a way that will make of aqualook a very good engine: you have to try making something _original_ but this means not to copy osx look... Try to use OSX as a "source of ideas" and then make something different and better looking, not something slow and useless (since pixmap themes already do the job and in a faster way)

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zammi

12 years ago

Thanks Cimi...Basically I'm doing this as a research thing and mostly learning purpose. I'm already having some ideas about a second engine. Still some basic mockups...

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iraiscoming223

12 years ago

I'm trying to build aqua look as well, but I cannot find any svg apple image to replace ubuntu distributor-logo.svg...
I tried to map a png file and transform it in svg but with bad results: no trasparency, etc...
Does anyone have a svg file?
Thank you in advance!

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lizardking

12 years ago

where did you find the sources?

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iraiscoming223

12 years ago

I actually didn't find any source! Just "nerding" around and trying to build it by myself :)

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lizardking

12 years ago

try to use a svn repository to track the sources....

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joelcalado

12 years ago

That gtk2 engine sure looks awesome :)

Many many thanks for your work on bringing aqua look to the linux desktop!

:D

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olinux

12 years ago

is the top panel just a gnome panel?

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joelcalado

12 years ago

It's a patched gtk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868&highlight=mac

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zammi

12 years ago

All the info you need here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=47611

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olinux

12 years ago

THANKS A LOT

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12 years ago

Most of the gnome stuff under control (Not all, but soon they will finish). Non Gnome/Gtk apps like firefoc etc (Plus some gtk apps that doesn't follow standards) are the evils at the moment :( . Obviously this is slower than some existing engines, But not so slow as I expected :) . This is my defauly engine now.

My plan is to make it essential feature complete and less buggy. Make an alpha release. Then move to polishing and performance tuning.

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